UFO Conjectures

Thursday, February 16, 2012

Jose Caravaca's List of UFO Crashes


Copyright 2012, InterAmerica, Inc.

Jose Antonio Caravaca, our Spanish colleague and esteemed UFO reseacher, has provided a list of UFO crashes, with these caveats:

"...the vast majority of incidents [might] be false, inventions or prototypes -- recovery secrets. Perhaps only a few (very few) may have a difficult explanation."

NOTE:

When two or more data appear separated by this character / it is taken as more reliable, the first starting from the left.

M Indicates that the occupants were dead
V indicates that the occupants were alive
H Occupants, badly wounded, dying in military hands
X Unoccupied Accidents
? Data not known
number Z = ships recovered in perfect condition


UFO CRASHES IN THE WORLD

Year-Date-Month -- Location, Occupant

1897 (17-4) Aurora, Texas (USA) 1 M
1908 (30-6) Tunguska (Russia)?
1939-46Spilzbergen (Norway)?
1941Goszevo and Dubroski (Belarus) (Russia)?
1947 (2/4-7) Roswell (New Mexico) (USA) 6/4 MH
1947 (2/4-7) Magdalena (N. Mexico) (USA) 4 M.H
1947 (2/4-7) San Agustin (N. Mexico) (USA) 4 MHV
1947 (? -10) Paradise Valley (Ariz.) (USA) 2 M
1947? Great Falls (Montana) (USA) 3 M
1948? Globe (Arizona) (USA)? M
1948 (25-3) (13-2) Aztec. (N. Mexico) (USA) 14/12 M
1948 (7-7) Nuevo Leon (Mexico) 1 M
1949 (30-1) Roswell (N. Mexico) (USA) 1 V
1950 (6-12) Indian Warrior (Texas) (USA)?
1952 (? -5) Spilzbergen (Norway)? -2 M
? Germany (North Sea)?
1952 (14-8) Ely (Nevada) (USA) 16/12 M
1952-50 (10-9) Albuquerque (N. Mexico) 3M
1953 (18-4) N.A. of Arizona (USA) 4 M
1953 (20-5) Kingman (Arizona) (USA) 1 M
1953 (19-6) Laredo (Texas) (USA) 4 M
1953 (10-7) South Africa Johannesburg SA 5 M
1953 (13-10) Dutton (Montana) (USA) 4 M
1954 (12-4) New Mexico (USA) 4 M
1955 (5-5) Brighton (England) 4 M
1955? Kasahstan (Russia) 1 = Z
1957 (18-7) Carlesbad (N. Mexico) (USA) 4 M
1957? Semipalatinsk (Kasahstan) (Russia)?
1958? Kasahstan (Russia)?
1961 Timmensdorfer (Germany) 12 M
1962 (18-4) Las Vegas (USA) 1 = Z
1962 (28-4) Lake Korb (Leningrad) (Russia)?
1962 (12-6) Holloman (N. Mexico) (USA) 2 M
1962? Semipalatinsk (Kasahstan) (Russia)?
1962? North of Russia?
1964 (10-11) Fort Riley (Kansas) (USA) 9 M
1965 (9-12) Kecksburg, Pennilsania (USA) 4 V
1966 (17-6) Elista (Caucasus) (Russia)?
1966 (27-10) N. E. of Arizona (USA) 1 M
(The UFO got off the ground)
UFO crashed in 1966-1968 5 states of Indiana, Kentucky and Ohio. (USA) 3 M 1 = Z
1968 (29/11) Urals Sverdlousk?
1972 (28/18-7) Sahara (Morocco) 3 M
1973 (10-7) Arizona (USA) 5 M
1976 (12-5) Desert Australia 4 M
1976-1977 Puebla (Mexico)?
1977 (22-6) Arizona (USA) 5/11 M
1977 (5-4) Ohio (USA) 11 M
1977 (17-8) Region Tobasco (N. Mex.) (USA) 2 M
1978 (18-1) McGuire (N. Jersey) (USA) 1 M
1978 (5 -?) Bolivia?-X
? Nepal?
? Spain 1 M
1978? Kazahstan (Russia)?
1978 to 1988 (-11) Afghanistan 7 M
1979? Ural Region, near Rinburg (Russia)?
1983 (5-5) Ordzhonikidze (Caucasus) (Russia)?
1983? Kazahstan (Russia)?
1984 (20-6) Baku (Azerbaijan) (Russia)?
1984? Taymyrian (Russia)?
1987 (-8) Vyborg (Leningrad) (Russia)?
1988 (22-11) Al'myakovo (Tomsk) (Russia)?
1989 (-5) Sudafica 2 V
1989 (-6) South Africa 2? 1 = Z
1989 (-7) Siberia (Russia) 9 V
1989 (16-9) Belaya Pashnya (Russia)?
1989? Dushanbe (Tadjikistan) (Russia)?
1989? Omsk (Russia)?
1990 (26-9) Kyzlkumy (Uzbekistan) (Russia)?
1990 (2-9) Megas Platanos (Greece)?
1990? Vladivostok (Russia)?
1991 (-11) Ezibastuz, Pavlodar (Kazahstan) (Russia)?
1992 (-11) Long Island NY (New York) (USA)?
1992 (25-6) Moldova (Ukraine) (Russia)?
1994 (-6) Kiev (Russia)?
1995 (15-9) Lesotho (South Africa) 3 H
1996 (20-1) Varginha Brazil 2 V

DATA:

ACCIDENTS TOTAL: 78

TOTAL CRASHES IN USA: 34
TOTAL CRASHES N. MEXICO: 10
TOTAL CRASHES IN RUSSIA: 27
CORPSES--ALIENS TOTAL: 148
ALIENS--LIVING TOTAL: 19


UFO ACCIDENTS IN ARGENTINA (Compiled by Luis Burgos)

1934 - 1992

TABLE OF REFERENCES:

A ASSOCIATED EXPLOSION
B DECAY OBJECT
C FALLING OBJECT WITHOUT TRACE
D DROP OBJECT WITH TRACES
E NO TRACE AND ASSOCIATES


01 12/01/34 NO de Chubut Chubut C
02 21/07/47 Tartagal Salta B
03 03/05/49 Sgo. del Estero Sgo. del Estero B
04 12/06/49 Loreto Sgo. del Estero B
05 22/07/50 Tres Isletas Chaco B
06 31/10/53 Venado Tuerto Santa Fe A
07 27/11/53 Paso de los Libres Corrientes B
08 08/11/54 Paso de los Libres Corrientes B
09 fines/55 Cerro Macón Salta D
10 21/08/57 Los Corrales Entre Ríos D
11 01/04/58 Zona de Neuquén Neuquén D
12 19/02/60 Zona Río Colorado Buenos Aires A
13 28/03/60 Córdoba Córdoba B
14 17/11/60 Rauch Buenos Aires C
15 07/08/61 Guaymallén Mendoza B
16 25/10/61 Mar del Plata Buenos Aires A
17 28/07/64 Golfo San Jorge Chubut C
18 24/11/64 Tío Pujio Córdoba D
19 01/65 Villa María Córdoba D
20 13/01/65 Lavalle Mendoza D
21 30/01/65 Luján Mendoza E
22 10/05/65 Lucio Mansilla Córdoba B
23 24/05/65 Cerro La Guayquería Mendoza E
24 65 San Luis San Luis E
25 18/03/66 Golfo San Jorge Chubut C
26 06/02/69 Sierra de la Ventana Buenos Aires C
27 25/01/70 Carlos Casares Buenos Aires E
28 07/02/70 Piamonte Santa Fe E
29 06/03/73 Mar del Plata Buenos Aires A
30 18/09/73 Don Torcuato Buenos Aires A
31 19/04/74 Jáchal San Juan B
32 10/01/75 San Rafael Mendoza C
33 26/06/75 Villa Carlos Paz Córdoba A
34 12/01/77 Nueve de Julio Buenos Aires A
35 06/05/78 Zona fronteriza de Orán Salta C
36 24/09/78 El Chocón Río Negro C
37 20/07/80 Cruz del Eje Córdoba B
38 03/10/80 Cañadón chileno Río Negro C
39 19/08/82 Resistencia Chaco A
40 25/01/85 Pedemonte Mendoza C
41 18/08/85 San Pedro de Colalao Tucumán C
42 14/05/86 Claypole y zonas Buenos Aires A
43 20/05/86 Santa Rosa La Pampa B
44 20/02/88 Miramar Buenos Aires C
45 25/02/88 Punta Lara Buenos Aires C
46 16/11/90 NE de Chubut Chubut C
47 29/03/92 E de Sgo. del Estero Sgo. del Estero D
48 /08/92 NE de Catamarca Catamarca C

JAC

Are crashed flying saucers ludicrous?


The continuing discussion about crashed saucers in the 40s and 50s is baffling.

UFOs no longer crash, that’s a certainty. They just appear, helter-skelter it seems.

But in the 1940s and 1950s it seems flying saucers crashed all over the place, and the near-Roswell crash still resonates among UFO devotees.

But how serious can one take such accounts?

If flying disks came from other galaxies, star-systems, or other cosmological venues, even from other dimensions or time, how feasible is it that the physical perturbations of Earth could down them?

Could radar observations disable such vehicles? Lightning? Or geomagnetic anomalies endemic to Earth?

Even one crash – Roswell? – seems unlikely, in an objective view of what it would take for an extraterrestrial culture to traverse here.

And if extraterrestrial travelers came to Earth early on – the so-called Ancient Astronauts – they must have had trouble with Earth’s chaotic atmosphere and bizarre stratospheric environment, but where are the remnants of any crashes? Where is the debris?

Yes, a fluke – unimagined or defined – may have taken a flying disk out of the skies near Roswell, or temporarily disabled a craft in Socorro, but what would that fluke be?

And what are the odds for the fluke being ubiquitous to the point that a number of out-of-world travelers were crippled by it?

The idea, on the face of it, should invite incredulity.

But instead it invites debate and ruminations of an ongoing, silly kind.

As our French colleague and UFO skeptic Gilles Fernandez says, that’s ufology…

RR